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#2809654 - 03/23/12 12:37 PM
Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes?
kensom Offline
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I have never fished the Miss. in Red Wing before and might give it a try....my question is is it OK to eat these fish? Is there a certain size that would be not safe to eat? Just wondering......
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#2809661 - 03/23/12 12:41 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: kensom]
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Yes they are safe to eat. Practice selective harvest and keep you limits under 20" even though there is no size restriction it will help keep the fishery in good shape.
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#2809679 - 03/23/12 01:02 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: TruthWalleyes]
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I've eaten plenty of fish from pool 4 and besides the 3rd nipple and growing a little webbing between a few of my toes I haven't noticed any serious issues.

In all seriousness it should be plenty safe to eat.

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#2809765 - 03/23/12 03:15 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: nofishfisherman]
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http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/fishing/fishing2012.pdf#view=fit&pagemode=bookmarks

Its a lil over 6MB.

Here's a link to the 2012 MN Fishing Regs. They talk about what's safe to eat on pp 82-85. There another link for more info about eating fish and tips.

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#2809876 - 03/23/12 06:23 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: EBass]
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DO NOT EAT RIVER FISH!i recommend catch and release only !
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#2810535 - 03/24/12 06:36 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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I say keep everything u catch. Asian carp on the way and no one seems to want to talk about it. Especially our great leaders in the capital. Within 4yrs we will be dodging carp flying at our heads on the way up river. Just some food for thought, maybe more sportsman need to speak up on this matter. Thanks all.
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#2810547 - 03/24/12 06:48 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: wcso811]
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Originally Posted By: wcso811
I say keep everything u catch. Asian carp on the way and no one seems to want to talk about it. Especially our great leaders in the capital. Within 4yrs we will be dodging carp flying at our heads on the way up river. Just some food for thought, maybe more sportsman need to speak up on this matter. Thanks all.


I don't even know where to begin with that one...

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#2810561 - 03/24/12 07:04 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: EBass]
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I have eaten a avg of two meals a fish a week out of the river for the last 10+ years my cousin is a doctor so he suggested I go in for testing, test results show that my mercury level is very low, looks like just one more scare tactic by the EPA

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#2810569 - 03/24/12 07:10 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: River Dan]
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better photo


Edited by River Dan (03/24/12 07:13 PM)

Capt.Dan the doctor of fish therapy
St Croix River


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#2810609 - 03/24/12 08:13 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: River Dan]
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Originally Posted By: River Dan
I have eaten a avg of two meals a fish a week out of the river for the last 10+ years my cousin is a doctor so he suggested I go in for testing, test results show that my mercury level is very low, looks like just one more scare tactic by the EPA


If you're mainly eating walleyes, there's not much reason to suspect elevated blood mercury levels, given that the consumption advisory on Pools 3 and 4 aren't for mercury, but rather PCBs and PFOS

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#2811127 - 03/25/12 07:12 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: goblueM]
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Its amazing the stuff our scientific community puts out for general public to have to listen to, and then expect us to heed their precautions!Im no scientist,but ive lived along the Mississippi all my life and have eaten fish from it all my life, i will tell you that the ole riv is 99%cleaner than it was 30 to 40 years ago,those were the days when sewage was never treated ,just dumped directly in the river,i remember after high water in the spring their would be party balloons and mousies hangin in the trees , yeeeeick!!! i think if i was to warn about unsafe pollutants being put into it i would point to the excrement of pelicans and commorants, its so bad it will kill all vegetation on the islands let alone curl youre hair when you get downwind!Dont get me wrong im all for stewardship of the river ecosystem but theese things are out of !!Time for intervention of the 12 gauge!!
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#2811180 - 03/25/12 08:10 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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Sewage and pelicans are not the reason to be cautious about eating too much fish from the Mississippi River; the river has been dealing with bird and fish waste for as long as the river has been there. PCBs are the problem in the Mississippi: http://mn.water.usgs.gov/publications/pubs/pcb/pcb.html
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/gmu/mississippi/FAQS.htm#pollutants
www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/fish/eating/genpoprivers.pdf
(On the PDF, the consumption information for the Mississippi is on pages 8 and 9.)

As someone else noted in a link, fish from the Mississippi in Minnesota are fine to eat in moderation, although it is best not to eat larger fish. The older the fish, the more PCBs it has absorbed.
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#2811372 - 03/26/12 08:02 AM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: JIvers]
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Trolloni, consumption advisories are just that - advisories.

Kinda like when the doctor advises against smoking or excessive drinking. We know those things are bad for us, but a lot of people do it anyways. You don't have to follow it, but it can have additive yet delayed health consequences. Some people like to follow "better safe than sorry", others don't. Whatever floats your boat

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#2811936 - 03/26/12 06:37 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: goblueM]
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I said i was no scientist,but youre saying sewage and bird excrement is fine for the ecosystem, huh silly me!if the fish in our ecosystem are so polluted ,how come they are still alive and swimming? and what floats my boat is me buying gas for it that i pay taxes on,and in my state i pay a water usage tax,and i also buy a registration from my state,also i buy insurance for piece of mind and protection for other boaters in case of an accident,and i also buy a fishing license,now if you havent gotten the point yet i will tell you it,all i wanna do is go fishin and get some for the table ,and im gettin real tired of dont do this dont do that or you shouldnt do this or that from the scientific community, the dnr, and the usfws, they better start thinking of where their budgets come from,us fisherman and hunters! not bird watchers and bycyclist
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#2812047 - 03/26/12 08:41 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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...youre saying sewage and bird excrement is fine for the ecosystem...

You suggested that cormorants and pelicans should be shot because they do their business in the river; by your logic we should also shoot all ducks and geese, and remove all fish from the river, because they too dump in it. Rivers in their natural state are not pure streams of distilled water; organic waste from birds and fish is part of the ecosystem. Bacteria and plants feed on organic waste, thereby breaking it down to its basic components. The bacteria and plants in turn form a base of the food pyramid.

You yourself noted that there is no longer raw sewage being dumped in the Mississippi, so that is no longer an issue.

...the fish in our ecosystem are so polluted ,how come they are still alive and swimming?

Because chemical pollutants like PCBs do not immediately kill every living thing they come in contact with, be they people or walleye.

...all i wanna do is go fishin and get some for the table ,and im gettin real tired of dont do this dont do that or you shouldnt do this or that from the scientific community...

It has been proven beyond a doubt that PCBs collect in the fatty tissues of fish in the Mississippi. The larger the fish, the higher the level of PCBs. That is a fact, not an opinion.

It has been amply demonstrated that exposure to PCBs increases the risk of cancer and birth defects in mammals, including humans. Are you saying that the "scientific community" is wrong about the dangers of PCBs, and if so, why?

Or do you accept that PCBs are dangerous, but believe people shouldn't be told eating too many fish from the Mississippi increases their risk of cancer?

...the dnr, and the usfws, they better start thinking of where their budgets come from,us fisherman and hunters! not bird watchers and bycyclist...

So the various government agencies listed here should let the people who pay their bills increase their risk of contracting cancers and giving their children birth defects without being warned of that risk?

Of course, the "bird watchers and bicyclists" do support the DNR and USFWS through taxes, donations, and usage fees. They also have to consume water and food products from the Mississippi, as does the roughly 1/3 of the population of the US that lives in the Mississippi watershed.
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#2812564 - 03/27/12 01:31 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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Originally Posted By: trolloni
I said i was no scientist,but youre saying sewage and bird excrement is fine for the ecosystem, huh silly me!if the fish in our ecosystem are so polluted ,how come they are still alive and swimming? and what floats my boat is me buying gas for it that i pay taxes on,and in my state i pay a water usage tax,and i also buy a registration from my state,also i buy insurance for piece of mind and protection for other boaters in case of an accident,and i also buy a fishing license,now if you havent gotten the point yet i will tell you it,all i wanna do is go fishin and get some for the table ,and im gettin real tired of dont do this dont do that or you shouldnt do this or that from the scientific community, the dnr, and the usfws, they better start thinking of where their budgets come from,us fisherman and hunters! not bird watchers and bycyclist


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#2812573 - 03/27/12 01:48 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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Originally Posted By: trolloni
I said i was no scientist,but youre saying sewage and bird excrement is fine for the ecosystem, huh silly me!if the fish in our ecosystem are so polluted ,how come they are still alive and swimming? and what floats my boat is me buying gas for it that i pay taxes on,and in my state i pay a water usage tax,and i also buy a registration from my state,also i buy insurance for piece of mind and protection for other boaters in case of an accident,and i also buy a fishing license,now if you havent gotten the point yet i will tell you it,all i wanna do is go fishin and get some for the table ,and im gettin real tired of dont do this dont do that or you shouldnt do this or that from the scientific community, the dnr, and the usfws, they better start thinking of where their budgets come from,us fisherman and hunters! not bird watchers and bycyclist


I'm not sure I follow your ranting logic. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from going out and eating your limit of fish everyday of the week. Just follow the posession limits and you're good to go.

What exactly is your point beyond that? Are you just upset that the DNR advises moderation? If you don't like their advisory then just ignore it and do whatever you want. Its not a law its just a suggestion.

Also may I offer a suggestions? A comma is not the same thing as a period when writing a paragraph. I think your entire post was one big runon sentence which makes it hard to read.

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#2812575 - 03/27/12 01:50 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: TruthWalleyes]
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I believe they must be over 15"

Originally Posted By: TruthWalleyes
Yes they are safe to eat. Practice selective harvest and keep you limits under 20" even though there is no size restriction it will help keep the fishery in good shape.
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#2812614 - 03/27/12 02:41 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: mfreeman451]
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i just printed out 15 pages of the rivers here in Minnesota regarding consumtion guidlines. one thing i noticed is that the rock bass for some reason is not a fish to eat out of the Mississippi regardless where you are. mercury is everywhere in the river from the top to the bottom. pcb's start comming into the situation once your past the Brainard dam but not so much as when you get to the Coon Rapids dam and below were it increases. also the guidlines go from unrestricted to once a week to once a month the lower you get on the river in this state. of course the larger fish species are to be eaten less once you get below the Coon Rapid dam {carp,pike, channel cats]. rough fish like carp and drum are noted as not to eat [one meal per month] where walleys go more like one meal per week [smaller size]. panfish [outside of rock bass] generaly have a unrestricted guideline. so for me i would go above the Coon Rapids dam personaly for eating.

once you get below the Ford dam you still for the most part in game fish, you can eat one meal a week [smaller sizes]. also this is where you will run into not just mercury levels but PCB's and PFO's. so that would mean catch and release for me. good luck.

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#2812784 - 03/27/12 06:15 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: reinhard1]
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nice reply eyehunter but enlighten me on what bycyclist pay for a user fee as this is foriegn to me, being i live in the middle of a very large bycycle trail system that was the old milwalkee railroad bed that is run by illinois dnr which they used 1.7 million dollars of hunters ,fisherman ,and trappers money to fund the construction and purchases of the property.trail is open to the public and no fees are required!!also we have a u.s.f.w.s. area just north of us with more bike trails once again no fees or donation boxes on the trail head,all i see is the destruction of habitat because us fws cuts down all the cover that deer ,turkeys,rabbits,and other nongame species need to survive,their reasoning is that they want a natural sand prarie ,there are no trees on a prarie ,direct quote from the refuge manager!now at all our local federal boat ramps there are boxes that you have to put 3 bucks in each day to use that boat ramp ,no bike riders there!as for theese awful terrible polluted fish sounds like we all better hang up the gear and sell everything to do with fishing on the riv!and nofishfisherman this is a typical response from someone who cant argue the message so you attack the messenger,which is real a cheap shot you are right though as long as i am within the regs i can do what i want and so can others, but i think were all missin the point here, think about everything you have to think about by just going fishing what a hassle !i thought this was AMERICA remember? land of the free !
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#2812819 - 03/27/12 06:48 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: trolloni]
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...but enlighten me on what bycyclist pay for a user fee as this is foriegn to me...

In Wisconsin state bike trails require users to purchase a yearly pass. Otherwise, taxes pay for bike trails.

...all i see is the destruction of habitat because us fws cuts down all the cover that deer ,turkeys,rabbits,and other nongame species need to survive,their reasoning is that they want a natural sand prarie ,there are no trees on a prarie ,direct quote from the refuge manager...

Sounds like Prairie Management 101 to me. An acre of prairie actually provides more wildlife habitat than an acre of timber. Did you learn something different when you earned your Ecology degree?

I don't see how this

...sounds like we all better hang up the gear and sell everything to do with fishing...

follows from this

...as for theese awful terrible polluted fish...

I would suggest working to improve water quality makes more sense than taking your toys and going home. In the meantime, keep as many or as few fish as the law allows, and ignore or abide the consumption advisories as you see fit.

...but i think were all missin the point here, think about everything you have to think about by just going fishing what a hassle...

I consider some "hassles" a small price to pay for some of the best fishing and hunting in North America, if not the world. Spend some time in places like Russia or South Korea, where there are no pesky regulations governing fishing, and you'll see tiny fish, shrinking populations, and horribly polluted waters. But, there are no "hassles".
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#2813036 - 03/27/12 11:35 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: JIvers]
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...but i think were all missin the point here, think about everything you have to think about by just going fishing what a hassle..

Oh yes.. All the things I think about before I go fishing.. like "should I grab my 2..4..5.. or 9wt..".. Do I feel like fishing panfish.. trout.. pike.. or bass?.. or usually the toughest of all.. which piece of water should i fish today?.. such tough and tiring questions I have to ask myself every morning I wake up...


Edited by ichmesir (03/27/12 11:36 PM)

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#2813115 - 03/28/12 06:18 AM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: itchmesir]
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The locals down there have been eating them for years. I have tried a few and they have a nice hint of mud taste to them. Zipper the fillets, soak in milk, add extra seasoning to the batter and go heavy on the tarter sauce then they should be good to eat.
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#2813785 - 03/28/12 07:42 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: ]
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well said krinkle
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#2813795 - 03/28/12 07:52 PM
Re: Is it safe to eat Mississippi Walleyes? [Re: TwinkeeDink]
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Everything can kill you and everything can give you cancer now'a'days... I wouldnt worry about a few muddy sauger fillets, life is too short. Just be sure you wash all the mud off of them, cuz they come straight from the bottom!!
Go heavy on the horseradish too!


Edited by YiGGiN4SLoBS (03/28/12 08:00 PM)

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