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#2355868 - 09/15/10 05:46 PM
Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter?
Huey Offline
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I plan on buying a chest freezer soon and leaving it in an unheated garage year round. If I leave it plugged in and run through the winter, even during below freezing temps, will it hurt the freezer?
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#2355885 - 09/15/10 06:04 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Huey]
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#2355893 - 09/15/10 06:13 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Buck Buster]
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no x2
I keep a thermometer in the garage.
seen it down to +10 in there many times.
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#2355920 - 09/15/10 06:40 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Huey]
mikey1685 Offline
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well it may or may not work,some do ,some don't,it will probably void the warranty on it,the problem is the oil gets to thick when its cold and can take the compressor out,i repair them for a living.and well a lot of them do work im not sure id recommended ,you would be taking a chance w/ a brand new one,
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#2355956 - 09/15/10 07:09 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: mikey1685]
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Seems like all the ones I see sitting in the garage are ancient, not brand new. However I believe there are some models made specifically for it, but they aren't cheap.

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#2355973 - 09/15/10 07:25 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: CJH]
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I have 2 out there. Ones is a box freezer, the other is a fridge with freezer.
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#2356081 - 09/15/10 09:08 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: psepuncher]
Big Buck Buster Offline
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Here's a question for ya. If you put the freezer in the garage that is going to be freezing cold in the winter, why would this hurt the compressor any? If the freezer stays cold enough, the compressor won't even be running, correct??
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#2356095 - 09/15/10 09:23 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Buck Buster]
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Seems like I have heard where the freezer stays in defrost and ruins the contents of the freezer. I'm not too sure about this but it seems like I have heard of this.

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#2356103 - 09/15/10 09:30 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Dave2]
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I have a regular refrigerator with a frost free freezer in my unheated but insulated garage. The coldest it get in there is 25 degrees on the coldest night. I have had meat in the freezer crystalize and become soft. It is almost acting like it is keeping it warmer than the garage temp. I have actually had freezer pop for the kids unthaw in the freezer to a liquid. I will not put any meats in my outside refrigerator again. It may be different with a chest freezer that is not frost free.
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#2356137 - 09/15/10 09:54 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Dave2]
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That part would make some sense. It is thinking that it is getting too cold and trying to defrost it.
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#2356171 - 09/15/10 11:49 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Buck Buster]
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Going on 30 years with a freezer in my garage. Never had one issue yet.

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#2356218 - 09/16/10 05:39 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Huey]
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Same as harvey lee. 30+ years without a problem. (I know I'm gonna regret bragging about this)

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#2356245 - 09/16/10 06:30 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: echotrail]
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Before you purchase, look at the owners manual. Some models are ok in garage applications some are not. Local made freezers are the ones that are ok. You will loose food in the ones that are not built for colder situations. I have been selling these things for along time, and have seen the models change throughout the years. Just look at the manual and it will tell you.
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#2356758 - 09/16/10 05:48 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: echotrail]
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Originally Posted By: echotrail
Same as harvey lee. 30+ years without a problem. (I know I'm gonna regret bragging about this)


LOL.

Thanks for the info, guys.
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#2356764 - 09/16/10 05:57 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: backtroller1]
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Originally Posted By: backtroller1
Local made freezers are the ones that are ok. You will loose food in the ones that are not built for colder situations.


Huh?....
Both of mine came with me from Texas and still work fine.

If I put milk in the fridge it freezes solid in the winter. The meat has no issues in the freezers along with all the berries we pick.
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#2356800 - 09/16/10 06:48 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big Buck Buster]
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there is two types of freezer auto defrost and manual defrost. To put in your garage you would want the manual defrost freezer. Thats what i was told when i purchased mine and it has worked for 2 years in the uninsulated garage, not a long time but hopefully it goes longer.

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#2358217 - 09/18/10 09:19 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: mikey1685]
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mikey1685,

In my refrigeration course they said the same thing. Good job for bringing this up correctly.
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#2358278 - 09/19/10 05:55 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: mtheis]
BobT Offline
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I'm sure it depends a lot on the design of the refrigerator/freezer. Some freezer actually do use heat to defrost and if this is the case, I could see where keeping it in an unheated area could be a problem. It could take too long to warm the interior enough to defrost properly and in the mean time your frozen goods are thawing. Not a good thing to do.

As far as refrigeration goes, if the situation Mikey mentioned isn't a problem and it doesn't have to go through a defrsot cycle, thre is another risk. The refrigerator is not designed to keep things warm, it's designed to keep things cool. Insulation does not generate heat, it only slows down the transfer of heat from one place to another. If the room temperature remains below freezing for an extended time, you stand the risk of freezing everything inside the refrigerator as well.


Edited by BobT (09/19/10 05:58 AM)

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#2358283 - 09/19/10 06:01 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: psepuncher]
BobT Offline
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Local made freezers are the ones that are ok. You will loose food in the ones that are not built for colder situations

So why would manufacturers build freezers and refrigerators for climate conditions? These items are interior appliances where the ambient temperature is constant within about a 10-15 degree range. There wouldn't be a big enough market for this to justify the cost of design and manufacture and so to do this would drive the price through the roof.

Bob
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#2358366 - 09/19/10 10:07 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: BobT]
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ive had a haier chest freezer in my unheated uninsulated porch on the outside north wall for 6 years and there has never been an issue. My uncle was in appliance business for 40 years and did say the older compressor oils would/could gel and cause problems. But anything newer - 20 years or so there should be no issues.

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#2358446 - 09/19/10 02:50 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: 3pronghook]
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i have had a large chest freezer in my garage for years with no problems. it's been through many years of deer proccesing and storage and general storage with family items and never skiped a beat. good luck.

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#2359540 - 09/20/10 08:10 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Huey]
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My mother had an old chest type freezer in her unheated storage shed for 25+ years. When she decided to downsize freezers this summer, they told her the new freezers can't be outside like that anymore.

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#2359698 - 09/21/10 12:35 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Huey]
chris63 Offline
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If it is a frost free fridge/freezer there is only one compressor for the cooling.If the ambient(outside)temperature drops below about 45f the re fridge section no longer requires the compressor and this will cause the frozen section to start to thaw.If the temperature drops below freezing the food in the fridge section will start to freeze.Also you could void the warranty and/or cause damage to the compressor due to sluggish start ups due to the cold ambient temperatures.c63
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#2359730 - 09/21/10 06:14 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: chris63]
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I'm not sure that I've read a thread on this website that has more opposing answers. For my money if you have a need for a fridge in the garage you're buying too much stuff.

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#2360961 - 09/22/10 10:12 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Tom7227]
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Originally Posted By: Tom7227
For my money if you have a need for a fridge in the garage you're buying too much stuff.


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Just get a manual defrost freezer and you'll be fine in the garage. I've been doing for many years with zero problems.

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#2361017 - 09/22/10 11:06 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: LightningBG]
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We don't have a second fridge necessarily because we over-fill our other one. The second fridge is handy for keeping things like beer, soft drinks, juices, extra milk, bait (wife won't have it in the other one), horse medications, etc.

Bob
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#2361058 - 09/22/10 11:33 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: BobT]
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Our cabin fridge/freezer is a cheapy. We leave food and condiments in there all winter long. When we warm up the cabin, everything in the fridge needs to defrost. That combo unit has been running for at least 10 years.

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#2362650 - 09/23/10 11:51 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: SkunkedAgain]
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My venison freezer in the pole barn runs great all winter once it stays below 20 degrees I unplug it is funny frozen things stay froze under 32 deg's

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#2363821 - 09/25/10 11:16 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Archerysniper]
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I've had a smaller cheapy new model chest freezer for five years and an older upright model for the past three years w/o issue.
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#2366524 - 09/29/10 07:37 PM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: LightningBG]
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How "frozen" are you looking to get in the winter? Buy the freezer, unplug it, and keep the door open.

Auto-defrost models are great for keeping beer from freezing and easier to clean when the kids' soda explodes all over the cars when you forget and leave a case on the floor.
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#2366820 - 09/30/10 06:08 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: muskE]
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Frozen food should remain below zero. You won't have that very much of the winter with an unplugged freezer, at least not with a lot of the winters we have had lately.

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#2368807 - 10/03/10 08:07 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Big-Al]
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Compressors in any ac/refrrigeration system are designed to pump refrigerant as a vapor(gas), not in a liquid form. Liquid refrigerant will ruin a compressor sooner or later. When temps get that cold, you will have liquid refrigerant sitting in the compressor. units that are intended to run in cold climates will have a small heater on the compressor to keep it warm enough prevent this. Newer units run different refrigerants, that use different oil..so oil isnt really an issue..not even so much in older units with mineral oil really..With all the goverment regs on energy useage & being "green" smirk they wont put a crankcase heater on a domestic unit, for the added energy consumption & to save a few dollars. a heater could be added to pretty much any compressor..no real need to pay the big bucks to buy a unit they say is built to run in a cold space. I would stay away from a fridge with electronic controls..they are most likely to be affected from the cold garage. a manual defrost unit with mechanical controls, would most likely be ok..better with a crankcase heater on the compressor.. Running a unit out there, that is not intended to be run in the cold is taking a chance.
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#2371510 - 10/06/10 10:51 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: pikechaser]
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we have fridge/freezer in our insulated garage and have lost alot of food once the temps drop far enough: everything in fridge is frozen and everthing in freezer is melted. They dont function correctly in super-cold weather. My advice is dont do it.


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#2372246 - 10/07/10 08:41 AM
Re: Freezer in unhgeated garage over winter? [Re: Bigbartguy]
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I have had freezers in my unheated garage for the last 25-30 years with no problems. Refrigerators on the other hand have not worked out.
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