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#2066089 - 11/16/09 01:23 PM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: 4wanderingeyes]
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HotSpotOutdoors Staff Adminstrator
Registered: 08/19/00
Posts: 13068
Loc: South of the River
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That’s better than me Scott, I didn’t even start  Once the thing finally got rolling around in July, I lost my motivation. A lot of data could’ve been collected by then…..A LOT. If I would’ve had an earlier warning, I probably would’ve made the commitment. Note to DNR: Serious catfishing begins in April I have to admit it would’ve been fun to see what the total number of fish boated this year was.
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#2069852 - 11/19/09 02:55 PM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: dtro]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors.com Family
Registered: 09/25/07
Posts: 1054
Loc: Burnsville, MN
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I don't like the GPS stuff any more than anyone else, but it is kinda important for tagged fish. I reported my catches by river mile. I never caught a tagged fish, but if so I would have gladly provided the coords. My guess is they didn't start until July because of bureaucratic blocks with funding the study, but who knows. There is always room for management improvement, especially when regulations are based on total guesses. I dunno maybe a CPR only season to protect spawning fish. I remember somebody saying something about that a long time ago... We’ve found a way to protect the majority of other species during the spawn (sans perch and panfish). So why not another great gamefish?
Here’s the kicker though. The spawn is smack dab in the middle of summer. So it’s a very easy argument to say, “well if you really cared you would want no fishing at all during the spawn”. It’s hard to argue with that, however it is a unique time for that to happen. Most other species for the most part are on the same schedule so it works out fine to delay the start of the season. Not so for the cats.
My own opinion is that all species should be C&R only during and before the spawn (or at least a window of C&R since you can’t predict the exact dates). Let them do their thing and then maybe start taking a few home for the pan.
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#2070421 - 11/20/09 01:09 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: elwood]
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Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 623
Loc: Jordan, Minnesota
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I think its safe to say that 98% of us on here that actually fish for catfish end up CPR every fish anyway... This whole summer of fishing I only saw one person take a catfish home. If i had a GPS and caught a tagged fish I would do all the steps needed as well. I have yet to see a tagged flat.
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#2070432 - 11/20/09 01:42 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: pureinsanity]
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Registered: 08/16/08
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Loc: Minnesota River
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I was keeping track of all my fish but realized that they only wanted info for the metro area so I didn't bother.
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#2071596 - 11/21/09 11:50 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: dtro]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 12/26/01
Posts: 10344
Loc: New Hope, MN
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IMO, I would like to see more CO’s out there enforcing the current bag limit rather than deciding if we need to change it. We can study until we are blue in the face, but in the meantime BillyBob is driving up here from (insert state) and harvesting a bunch of big old fish illegally. What about a bunch of CO's just enforcing the fishing regulations period? Some of these topics end up being the biggest bunch of hypocrisy I've ever read.
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#2071676 - 11/21/09 02:01 PM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: hanson]
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FishingMN Pro Staff
Registered: 01/22/01
Posts: 3789
Loc: Belle Plaine, MN..
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#2071791 - 11/21/09 05:47 PM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: hanson]
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Registered: 08/19/00
Posts: 13068
Loc: South of the River
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IMO, I would like to see more CO’s out there enforcing the current bag limit rather than deciding if we need to change it. We can study until we are blue in the face, but in the meantime BillyBob is driving up here from (insert state) and harvesting a bunch of big old fish illegally. What about a bunch of CO's just enforcing the fishing regulations period? Some of these topics end up being the biggest bunch of hypocrisy I've ever read. Well, 95% of the chatter here is based on opinions. In my opinion...read that again....IN MY OPINION I think harvesting big and old fish illegally is the single biggest threat to the Flathead fishery. NOT snagging them out of season, NOT using bullheads that are too long, NOT using bait that came from infested waters, NOT fishing with multiple lines, NOT jug fishing and certainly NOT failing to have a light on while anchored. These are all against the law, and yes of course the CO's should be out there enforcing ALL the laws. Period Now other people might think a bigger threat is yahoos like me blabbing about catching fish all time time and posting pictures and videos for the world to see... exploitation if you will. Then the next guy will say he's upset that he can't keep more than 2 over 24" because he likes eating them. We all have our concerns and that sure is a heck of a lot better than nobody caring at all. All I can say is this, there is nothing in this world I enjoy doing more than spending my summers on the river with friends catching Flatheads, and if I knew that keeping a survey of every fish I caught and reporting that to the proper authority would at least ensure security of the fishery we have now, you bet I would do whatever I could. I try my best to help others out by lending tips and or reports to help them enjoy their time on the water. Nothing better than seeing new people enjoying the same experiences I've been able to have over the past several years. I sure don't do it for the pay  Quite honestly I take offense to being called "sad" or a "hypocrite" for choosing not to participate in a study.
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#2071827 - 11/21/09 06:31 PM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: DARK30]
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Registered: 04/27/08
Posts: 3995
Loc: Lake St.Croix Beach Minnesota
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27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs.
53 to flame the spell checkers
41 to correct spelling/grammar flames.
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"...another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp".
15 know-it-alls who claim *they* were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct.
156 to email the participant's ISPs complaining that they are in violation of their "acceptable use policy".
109 to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb group
203 to demand that cross posting to hardware forum, off-topic forum, and lightbulb group about changing light bulbs be stopped.
111 to defend the posting to this group saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts *are* relevant to this group.
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty.
27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's.
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
33 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too".
12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy.
19 to quote the "Me too's" to say "Me three".
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44 to ask what is a "FAQ".
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs".
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#2072251 - 11/22/09 10:52 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: dtro]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors.com Family
Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 623
Loc: Jordan, Minnesota
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Lazy I can live with Isn't that part of the reason we catfish??? Fewer cast's, long waits, cold beverages and good company.... Now that's fishing  If only we could get the TV, and xbox or playstation out there on the river  I am right up there with you! LAZY!
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#2072261 - 11/22/09 11:08 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: pureinsanity]
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Sr HSOList.com Family
Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 2144
Loc: St. Paul/Blacksburg VA
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couple of thoughts -
Fisrt - It's really important for the public to help out the DNR with stuff like this, because they don't have the funding or the time to get as much data to properly manage resources. I do try to respond in surveys, however i totally understand all the work it is, particularly the catfish study
second, I would bet it started in July because thats when the new fiscal year started.
third - i totally agree with regs being decent, enforcement not. there need to be WAY more COs out there, and a big part of this goes back to us as sportsmen to monitor each other
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#2072267 - 11/22/09 11:21 AM
Re: DNR Catfish Study
[Re: goblueM]
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Registered: 07/25/06
Posts: 1463
Loc: central
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I got this part covered. MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.................. 
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