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#1935096 - 07/04/09 02:30 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tweedlap]
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Typical right wing rehtoric on here. Always, find someone else to blame for your shortcomings.
The truth will come out about why she really abandoned the people of Alaska.
Has she been to Agentina?
tweed I already said quitting the governorship, if she had WH aspirations, was the dumbest move in politics. She made the choice. hence, she has to live with it. Nobody is "blaming" anybody. Others are trying to come up with reasons. none of which we know if they are the reason or not. All speculation BTW...it's Argentina and rhetoric 
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 02:35 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935099 - 07/04/09 02:38 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Registered: 04/27/08
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You are correct nobody thinks it is right to attack the children but she did put the focus on her children and put them in harms way for what ever reasons in doing so. I dont see it as going after the children I see it at pointing out the hypocritical views she insisted on lecturing us on. Take it as you may but when one lives in the political arena and you do not live up to what you preach you become an easy target.
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#1935100 - 07/04/09 02:40 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: Steve Foss]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
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Well, I just spent the evening photographing a Class of 1979 high school reunion, and there were at least 19 babes who put the Palinoscopy to shame. Well, maybe a cosmetic surgeon or two was employed in the effort. One can't be sure unless the photography is, shall we say, candid . . .  And the best part is that these nearly 50something hotties have sons and daughters who are 20something hotties, and will be getting married soon.  Oh, uh, wait just a minute. Here I am getting off the topic. The topic is politics. Oh, uh, wait just a minute, this particular topic has nothing to do with the outdoors, and since we're not coming up to an election, I guess none of this interesting speculation belongs here. Class of 1978...much better
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935102 - 07/04/09 02:42 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: croixflats]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
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Loc: North of Duluth
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You are correct nobody thinks it is right to attack the children but she did put the focus on her children and put them in harms way for what ever reasons in doing so. I dont see it as going after the children I see it at pointing out the hypocritical views she insisted on lecturing us on. Take it as you may but when one lives in the political arena and you do not live up to what you preach you become an easy target. how so?? Did she bring her daughter to New york so that letterman could make a rape joke so she could make an issue of it? based on your reply, that's what you're saying Besides, i fail to see what hypocritical view she espouses that involves bringing up her kids???? It's still just your opinion whether she used them as props or not. But, it is your right and others to go after her kids like that. But don't get indignant if some lowlife goes after the Obama girls. At least palin didn't vote for that God awful TARP in 2008 like the other three did. She gets credit for that at least. Even though if she could she might have Christ. If Letterman said the same things about the Obama girls he would be brought up on hate crime charges and various other speech codes At least the palin thing gets the 24 hour micheal jackson coverage off the news
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 02:53 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935106 - 07/04/09 02:57 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tweedlap]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
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Typical right wing rehtoric on here. Always, find someone else to blame for your shortcomings.
Does that include BHO who still is blaming GWB and everybody else while he adds on to the debt, deficit, and the general growth of government that would make everyone before him wince 
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 02:59 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935107 - 07/04/09 03:02 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: harvey lee]
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HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff
Registered: 12/02/01
Posts: 12686
Loc: So. Cent. MN
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She has no expierence to run for President. What does that matter? Look who we've got in the Oval Office now! People don't care anymore about who is going to lead what was once the greatest country on the planet...it's all a popularity contest now and I bet half of them on election night were wondering what the number was to text message in their choice as if it were American Idol. There really should be an IQ test given prior to entering the voting booth.
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#1935109 - 07/04/09 03:09 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 4843
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She has no expierence to run for President. What does that matter? Look who we've got in the Oval Office now! People don't care anymore about who is going to lead what was once the greatest country on the planet...it's all a popularity contest now and I bet half of them on election night were wondering what the number was to text message in their choice as if it were American Idol. There really should be an IQ test given prior to entering the voting booth. Yup. Two of the worse candidates to ever run and pander for high office in 2008 and all we got were slogans of "Hope and Change" and "Maverick." We really are the "United States of Entertainment."
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935117 - 07/04/09 03:31 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
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[quote=LMITOUT Plus they saw the economy falling apart and knew that 2012 would be ripe for the picking when this president doesn't get anything accomplished and is one and done. [/quote]
maybe..except by who? i think some leaders are going to have to come along and fix the mess that was /is being created and i see no one on the horizon anywhere. maybe a dark horse will come up by then but i don't see it now considering the GOP helped with this mess.
The GOP dug a hole and gave the shovel to BHO and the dems to finish it
The last president who was like this in my lifetime was Carter. I take back my Bush's third term prediction although they still share alot of similarities
Now that nut franken is in. God help us
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 03:35 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935126 - 07/04/09 04:02 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff
Registered: 12/02/01
Posts: 12686
Loc: So. Cent. MN
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Hard to say right now. Maybe in three years when we're still in this rut, or even deeper, the people will wise up and realize that a true conservative candidate is the best choice for the country. Right now the repubs are flaunting moderates and "mavericks" to try to get some of the popularity vote. Newt Gingrich has hinted at running but who knows. Unlike what we are currently stuck with, he actually HAS experience and would crush anybody in a debate which would be real fun to watch. Hate to say it, but maybe a rough three years is the wake-up call this country needs so that next time they just don't cast their vote for the charismatic, well spoken panderer who doesn't follow through on his campaign promises.
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#1935134 - 07/04/09 04:40 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors.com Family
Registered: 07/28/08
Posts: 932
Loc: St louis Park
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You're right about the 2008 candidates...what a bunch of duds. I agree,but that has been common throught my lifetime,and I been voting for almost 40 years. How bad a candidate was John Kerry that he could not beat President Bush after his first term. Also Bush and Gore were both awful choices. If Bush was a good choice he would have blown away Gore after Clinton had stained,in more ways than one,the presidency.
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#1935159 - 07/04/09 05:29 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 06/19/04
Posts: 2423
Loc: USA
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Look at the embezzlement charge being thrown out at the beginning of this topic by an Obama loyalist. No evidence required. Just masde him feel good to throw that out Oh,come now,if I had a dime for every "terrorist" and "muslim" theory that was thrown out about Obama on here prior to the election,I could buy the website! No one ever started a thread about Gingrich calling Sotomayor a racist. No one started a thread about the right wing terrorism involving the killing of the abortion doctor or the murder of the guard at the holocaust museum by a right wing extremist. Calling someone a "loyalist" without ever meeting face to face is interesting,but I won't stoop to personal attacks. Funny,we never bumped elbows while you were in the voting booth with me to see how I voted. It's amazing how all I hear is how America is a "center right" country-everyone says it. Well,John McCain was a "center right" politician-and he lost-badly. Can anyone explain this to me?
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#1935161 - 07/04/09 05:36 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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HotSpotOutdoors Pro Staff
Registered: 12/02/01
Posts: 12686
Loc: So. Cent. MN
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No one started a thread about the right wing terrorism involving the killing of the abortion doctor or the murder of the guard at the holocaust museum by a right wing extremist. Actually there was but it was pulled pretty quickly. Well,John McCain was a "center right" politician-and he lost-badly. Can anyone explain this to me? Sure. He may have lost big in the electoral vote, but not so much in the popular vote. Where do the big electoral numbers come from? Yep, the large metro areas that are primarily democratic controlled. Wasn't it only a couple of percent difference in the popular vote? That isn't "losing badly".
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#1935168 - 07/04/09 05:53 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 4843
Loc: North of Duluth
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Look at the embezzlement charge being thrown out at the beginning of this topic by an Obama loyalist. No evidence required. Just masde him feel good to throw that out Oh,come now,if I had a dime for every "terrorist" and "muslim" theory that was thrown out about Obama on here prior to the election,I could buy the website! No one ever started a thread about Gingrich calling Sotomayor a racist. No one started a thread about the right wing terrorism involving the killing of the abortion doctor or the murder of the guard at the holocaust museum by a right wing extremist. Calling someone a "loyalist" without ever meeting face to face is interesting,but I won't stoop to personal attacks. Funny,we never bumped elbows while you were in the voting booth with me to see how I voted. It's amazing how all I hear is how America is a "center right" country-everyone says it. Well,John McCain was a "center right" politician-and he lost-badly. Can anyone explain this to me? Oh. This is going to be easy You are a loyalist. You threw out the hint an embezzlement charge with no evidence only because you "heard it on the internet." The terrorist charge wasn't leveled at obama but at ayres before the election and how much obama had a relation with him. secondly, the muslim charge. i don't remember anyone here claiming he was a muslim. But, what i am hearing is he himself bragging about his "muslim roots." My favorite people in the world are Obama voters. Mccain voters were never under the illusion that he would be any different save for some in the talk radio crowd. But Obama voters.... wow. talk about being truly in love. I thought GWB voters were bad but at least they did an obligatory critisism on the spending and growth of government. It took about 6 years for them to finally see the light. i don't think the true obama believers will ever Lastly, the center right argument. that's based on how people vote on certain ballot issues. most tax increaes, new programs, gay marriage, benefits for illegals, ect tend to favor the conservative side for the most part. also, your guy ran on fiscal responsibility, tax cuts, ect. he never would have won if he told people what he really had planned
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 06:42 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935169 - 07/04/09 05:58 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 06/19/04
Posts: 2423
Loc: USA
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People don't care anymore about who is going to lead what was once the greatest country on the planet... This should be pulled as well. As far as me and my family are concerned,this is-and always will be-the greatest country on the planet-no matter who is running it. Would you like to try and fish for Eyes in Morocco? I would never,ever dis the United States of America because I didn't agree with the direction I thought it was heading,or who was leading it. Perhaps you can tell us which country you think is better now?
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#1935171 - 07/04/09 06:04 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: tacklejunkie]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 06/19/04
Posts: 2423
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Lastly, the center right argument. that's based on how people vote on certain ballot issues. Please post for me where that stipulation was qualified before the rhetorical comment was thrown out. People said "Obama is paling around with terrorists" Yes,I'm sure they weren't trying to initiate any bad thoughts there. 
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#1935172 - 07/04/09 06:09 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
Posts: 4843
Loc: North of Duluth
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Lastly, the center right argument. that's based on how people vote on certain ballot issues. Please post for me where that stipulation was qualified before the rhetorical comment was thrown out. People said "Obama is paling around with terrorists" Yes,I'm sure they weren't trying to initiate any bad thoughts there. So your view is "they did it, so we can do it, too." What happened to hope and change??? Well, Bill Ayres said he and the Obama's had a close relationship. If you don't like it, you need to take that up with Ayres. However, this isn't a thread to re fight the 2008 election. that fight and the Ayres issue is over. It's fruitless to bring up Ayres now What's now more pressing is the huge debt, the massive currency printing and devaluing, the weakness on the international front, the creating a hostile business environment, cap and trade, the upcoming amnesty attempt, the massive deficits, the further loss of capital, the increasing unemployment...these are the current issues of today oh, and trying to figure out why palin just got up and quit the governorship
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 06:12 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935173 - 07/04/09 06:11 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 06/19/04
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Loc: USA
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You must remember that no President will ever be perfect. Reagan's GDP numbers were dismal. I think this will be my last post in this "non political" forum.  For some reason I feel like a man running in circles waving my arms fighting a swarm of bees. 
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#1935174 - 07/04/09 06:15 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 06/19/04
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What's now more pressing is the huge debt, the massive currency printing and devaluing, the weakness on the international front, the creating a hostile business environment, cap and trade, the upcoming amnesty attempt, the massive deficits, the further loss of capital, the increasing unemployment...these are the current issues of today
All of which neither you or I can do anything about until 2010. Guess I'll go fishing! 
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#1935177 - 07/04/09 06:17 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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Sr HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 09/29/07
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Loc: North of Duluth
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You must remember that no President will ever be perfect. Reagan's GDP numbers were dismal. I think this will be my last post in this "non political" forum.  For some reason I feel like a man running in circles waving my arms fighting a swarm of bees. huh?? during the reagan presidency, the GDP grew at a rate at about 3.5 percent which was the same as Clintons. neither president was hostile to free enterprise like this one BTW....good luck fishing
Edited by tacklejunkie (07/04/09 06:31 PM)
"Now there's no more oak oppression, For they passed a noble law, And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, axe, and saw." The Trees by Rush
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#1935217 - 07/04/09 09:25 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: MARINERMAGNUM]
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HSOShow.com Family
Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 160
Loc: Wisconsin
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Word on the web is embezzlement charges are in the offing. Anyone hear different? Let's try this and see your reaction. "Word on the web is President Obama is not an American citizen." In other words, do not accept anything posted on web sites as gospel just because they're negative about someone you have political differences with.
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#1935255 - 07/04/09 11:29 PM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: imhooked]
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Sr HotSpotOutdoors.com Family
Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 1001
Loc: Brainerd (aka St. Cloud Jr; )
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So Palin is resigning . . . .talk about a case of "cut and run". But wait, I thought only Democrats did that?
The more I read about this lady, thre more I am both saddened and happy: Happy for not getting her elected, sad for giving her the moderate chance of being elected.
The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance -Socrates
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#1935296 - 07/05/09 02:25 AM
Re: Palin quits......
[Re: LMITOUT]
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 26838
Loc: The back forty
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She has no expierence to run for President. What does that matter? Look who we've got in the Oval Office now! People don't care anymore about who is going to lead what was once the greatest country on the planet...it's all a popularity contest now and I bet half of them on election night were wondering what the number was to text message in their choice as if it were American Idol. There really should be an IQ test given prior to entering the voting booth. Lets see, Sara quit her governer position after how many months. I believe that Obama stayed in his senator position and did not just walk away and quit and then not say why. Sara has the right to run for Pres but this latest move will slam the door closed. Only time will prove that. You question what does it matter, will she quit if she were elected president also? One does not know anymore. I agree the kids should not be drasgged into this but Sara did parade them around during her campaign. She tried to use them to her advantage. Leave the kids out of it all.
"If you're lucky enough to be at the lake....... you're lucky enough!"
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